{"id":241,"date":"2012-08-15T19:03:03","date_gmt":"2012-08-16T02:03:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/?p=241"},"modified":"2012-08-15T19:03:03","modified_gmt":"2012-08-16T02:03:03","slug":"analysis-of-talent-choices-dps-and-stat-weights-mop-beta-build-15972","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/?p=241","title":{"rendered":"Analysis of Talent Choices, DPS, and Stat Weights (MoP Beta Build 15972)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Usual disclaimer: the following information is as of the Mist of Pandaria Beta build 15972, released on August 14, 2012, and may not be accurate once future patches are released.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>For a primer on this post, please see the <a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/?p=117\" title=\"On Talent Choices, DPS, and Stat Weights (MoP Beta Build 15913)\" target=\"_blank\">original post<\/a> from early last week. To see the previous set of changes, please see the <a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/?p=191\" title=\"Even More Updates On Talent Choices, DPS, and Stat Weights (MoP Beta Build 15952)\" target=\"_blank\">update post<\/a> from last week.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This update on where our talent combinations stand is going to be shorter than usual because, well, there&#8217;s not a lot to talk about: we got nerfed and no mechanics changed. More detailed post coming with the next build.<\/p>\n<p>Here are some updated graphs from the latest patch:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/images\/2012\/august\/dps_relative_to_boss_type_and_talents_550x850-20120815.png\" alt=\"DPS Relative to Encounter Type and Talents\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Major Changes from the last patch to this patch:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mop.wowhead.com\/spell=8092\" target=\"_blank\">Mind Blast<\/a><\/strong> &#8211; damage reduced by 15%<\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mop.wowhead.com\/spell=15407\" target=\"_blank\">Mind Flay<\/a><\/strong>  &#8211; damage reduced by 15%<\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mop.wowhead.com\/spell=2944\" target=\"_blank\">Devouring Plague<\/a><\/strong> &#8211; damage reduced by 9%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I computed (napkin math&#8217;d) this out by hand to be somewhere between a total DPS loss on the order of 6%-7%, depending on talents and fight choices. Now that sims are done, I won&#8217;t have to guess at it anymore:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/images\/2012\/august\/dps_change_relative_to_boss_type_and_talents_550x850-20120815.png\" alt=\"DPS Increase Relative to Encounter Type and Talents\" \/><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/images\/2012\/august\/percent_dps_change_relative_to_boss_type_and_talents_550x850-20120815.png\" alt=\"%DPS Increase Relative to Encounter Type and Talents\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Ouch.<\/p>\n<p>On the bright side, my estimate on DPS reduction were too high in some cases. On the bad side, we still took an average DPS nerf of 6k.<\/p>\n<p>The only good news is that it doesn&#8217;t look like Blizzard is going to do any more nerfing to us (\/knock on wood) as we&#8217;re quite literally in the bottom 1\/6 of DPS specs. Ghostcrawler has stated that they have multiple builds being worked on and tested internally, so I would say with high confidence that we will have a buff of some sort incoming within the next two builds&#8230;exactly what kind of buff is yet to be determined, though.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the new stat weights for BiS:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/images\/2012\/august\/pseudo_point_values_of_shadow_stats_550x550-20120815.png\" alt=\"Pseudo Point Value of Shadow Stats\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/images\/2012\/august\/pseudo_point_values_of_shadow_stats_table_550x550-20120815.png\" alt=\"Pseudo Point Value of Shadow Stats Table\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Not as much change as I was expecting. Haste is still worst and Mastery is best, thanks to the<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/?p=205\" title=\"Haste Breakpoints for Shadow and Their Effect on Stat Weights\"> DP+2 Haste Breakpoint<\/a> at 8085 Haste. below the SWP+2 and DP+2 breakpoints, however, Haste is still #1.<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/p>\n<h3>Notes and Resources<\/h3>\n<p><\/strong><br \/>\n<b>Raw SimulationCraft Data<\/b><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/resources\/2012\/august\/results-20120815-heavymovement.html\" title=\"Heavy Movement\" target=\"_blank\">Heavy Movement<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/resources\/2012\/august\/results-20120815-helterskelter.html\" title=\"Heavy Movement\" target=\"_blank\">Helterskelter<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/resources\/2012\/august\/results-20120815-lightmovement.html\" title=\"Heavy Movement\" target=\"_blank\">Light Movement<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/resources\/2012\/august\/results-20120815-patchwerk.html\" title=\"Heavy Movement\" target=\"_blank\">Patchwerk<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/resources\/2012\/august\/results-20120815-ultraxion.html\" title=\"Heavy Movement\" target=\"_blank\">Ultraxion<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The SimulationCraft profiles changed slightly from the last post to this one.<\/p>\n<p>These sims were for fights that are single-target. Multi target fights may (will) have different results.<\/p>\n<p>These sims are as of Mists of Pandaria Beta build 15972, released on August 14, 2012. Once a new build comes out, these values will no longer be 100% valid!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Usual disclaimer: the following information is as of the Mist of Pandaria Beta build 15972, released on August 14, 2012, and may not be accurate once future patches are released. For a primer on this post, please see the original post from early last week. To see the previous set of changes, please see the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,4,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-241","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mists-of-pandaria-beta","category-theorycrafting","category-warning-math-ahead"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/241","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=241"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/241\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":246,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/241\/revisions\/246"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=241"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=241"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/warcraft.twintop-tahoe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=241"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}